A Game of Thrones – Chapter Five: Jon


  1. Page numbers based off Kindle edition.
  2. No spoiling me; I will edit/delete any.
  3. I don’t avoid spoilers.
  4. My citation format is not necessarily accurate, but it works for me.

I appreciate that some people may be turned off by this constant ‘pre-blog’ notification. I choose to respect that some people may not have read these books before, like I hadn’t and so make the effort to not spoil them unless they go to the post page. I figure if you really want to be here, reading, you’ll ignore it.

And smacked in the face with Jon’s illegitimacy with the first sentence. How… refined.

I think I would rather sit with Jon, seeing as he has far more freedom… though… Ned cares about Jon even if he should not. Why then, allow Jon more freedom than his trueborn would get? I would think he would have expectations of Jon… and I don’t think drinking himself into a stupor is what Ned would expect.

King Robert has certainly changed from what he was. Poor man.

…Joffrey is here?! Isn’t he half deranged and not really a Baratheon anyway? And he has pouty lips? Ew.

Jaime… I am used to that being a girls’ name. It may be unisex, or a boy’s name used for girls… in my headspace, I just think “girl”. This will take a little bit of adjusting.

Poor Tyrion. I kind of want to hug him after that description of his physicality. But I probably shouldn’t, right?

Oooh, Jon named his direwolf Ghost? I guess that is appropriate. Also I like how he can take the entire chicken for Ghost and no one bats an eye.

…considering that Jon apparently sits with his brothers normally, I feel my thinking in that Ned has expectations that Jon is not living up to is accurate!

I think I like this first chapter of Jon… the way he takes in details and analyses them. It may be a useful thing for a bastard to do; I also kind of wish more characters did it—in general, not just in ASoIaF. I find that sort of thing really interesting.

Why does Jon want to serve on the Wall? Is it that good… oh. It’s more the Night’s Watch. …and… ouch. Poor Jon. Frankly, is knowing a woman all that great? Or even a man? I found sex to be kind of meh, honestly. Don’t know why people think it’s all that great.

And after that little piece of overshare, Jon meets Tyrion. uUexpectedly for me, Tyrion is actually helpful. …or appears to be; I suppose I would not put it past the characters of ASoIaF to be all out for self-interest and profit. But even if that is a self-interested piece of advice, it’s still quite a good piece of advice.

When he opened the door, the light from within threw his shadow clear across the yard, and for just a moment Tyrion Lannister stood tall as a king.1 I really, really like this sentence. This is uh-mazing writing—or so I think.

1. Martin, George R.R. (2010-12-23). A Game of Thrones, page 54. HarperCollins Publishers. Kindle Edition.


4 Responses to “A Game of Thrones – Chapter Five: Jon”

  1. Anna says:

    Jon doesn’t so much have more *freedom* than the trueborn Stark children, as he doesn’t have society’s expectations on him in the same way. He still has to deal with society’s expectations, just not the same ones – trueborn children of noble houses have to have arranged marriages, have to behave a certain way, are expected to carry on the family line, etc., etc. which means Jon, on the surface, has more freedom. On the other hand – as this chapter kind of gets into – bastard-born children are seen as immoral and untrustworthy and generally an embarrassment to society. That’s a tough thing to overcome as well.

    … And no one KNOWS Joffrey isn’t really a Baratheon, silly! 😛

    And re: Jon not living up to Ned’s expectations – I think Ned is pretty okay with the idea of Jon getting blind drunk during the feast. It’s kind of expected for young men not to know their limits, and it IS a feast, after all. Even grown men get blind drunk (*cough*Robert*cough*).

    Jon is one of those characters for whom the majority of his development, tension and action is internal. Almost everything happens inside his head – he thinks and thinks and thinks, and analyses and reacts and so on, internally. He does get to do his share of external action as well, but to understand his character, you NEED to know what’s going on inside his head. The tv-series, alas, completely screwed that up. You get NONE of Jon’s internal goings-on, which means that as far as the tv-audience is concerned, Jon is a whiny teen with no personality.

    Tyrion! <3 I love him so much. He isn't always perfect, and he makes HIGHLY questionable decisions throughout the books, but oh, I love him so. I have a real thing for outsiders, I do. But then, I have serious Jaime-feels too, so I'm probably a bit weird. … And yes, I know it makes me really weird that I am a huge Northmen/Stark-fan (wave the wolf banner!) while at the same time having feels about Lannister-characters. Mind you, I like Tywin too – although in a completely different way than Tyrion and Jaime. Tywin is SUCH a cruel bastard, but I love reading about him. Charles Dance's portrayal of him is one of the BEST things in the tv-series.

    And hnnggh, that final quote on standing tall as a king! <3 So good!

    • Dianna says:

      I feel this is appropriate.

      Dianna: …so you’re saying, watch GoT first, then read ASoIaF?
      Anna: Oh you. 😛 Also no. Read the books first. If you watch GoT first, you’ll be coming back to me and going “But what’s the point of Jon Snow, Anna? Isn’t he just a whiny little kid?” and I’ll have to go “No, grasshopper, he is a complex character with a bunch of interesting qualities that they completely screwed up in the first two seasons of the show” and it’ll be a great waste of time.

      And yes, from that exchange, I do like Tyrion. He is noble in his way.

  2. Siri Paulson says:

    Re: Jaime — I’m more used to that being a girl’s name, too, with Jamie being for boys. *shrugs*

    Yes, Jon is a thinker. It’s partly in self-defense — if you’ve got a disadvantage like being born on the wrong side of the blanket (wait, do they use that phrase in ASOIAF? maybe not), you’ve got to find your advantages somewhere else. And he’s not the only character who’s developed his thinking skills to overcome a disadvantage of one sort or another.

    You’ve met Tyrion! <3 He's my favourite character, even over such lovelies as Dany. But then I've always had a soft spot for the snarky ones, ever since my days of David Eddings fangirling.

    I kinda like the moment that he and Jon have. They're a most unlikely pair at first glance, but when you look closer, they're both outcasts in different ways.

    *agrees with Anna about being a Stark-fan with Lannister-feels* Oh, GRRM. He does love to mess with the readers' minds….

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