A Game of Thrones – Chapter Ten: Jon

Reminders:

  1. Page numbers based off Kindle edition.
  2. No spoiling me; I will edit/delete any.
  3. I don’t avoid spoilers.
  4. My citation format is not necessarily accurate, but it works for me.

I appreciate that some people may be turned off by this constant ‘pre-blog’ notification. I choose to respect that some people may not have read these books before, like I hadn’t and so make the effort to not spoil them unless they go to the post page. I figure if you really want to be here, reading, you’ll ignore it.

Oh, poor Jon. And poor Catelyn. *hugs them both*

…Catelyn… I… *shakes head* Geez, you’ve got problems with Jon, but honestly, letting the poor guy goodbye isn’t that big a deal… is it? I dunno, I don’t want to write off your feelings, especially as I don’t know them all that well, but…

The way Martin describes Bran, I don’t see how he can recover. He has to, because he knows stuff, and I wanna see the explosion that occurs.

…CATELYN YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT. *stares in disbelief* And then Jon doesn’t mention it to Robb… man, I like Jon. He is a good sort. I’m gonna hate the TV show.

Jon really cares about Arya. It’s nice. Ooh, I hope Arya does get to use the sword. That would be awesome.

Needle. An… interesting name for a sword.

Whatever Catelyn might say about Jon, I get the impression that most of the half-siblings like him well enough.

Comments

6 Responses to “A Game of Thrones – Chapter Ten: Jon”

  1. Anna says:

    Cat’s feelings about Jon is one of those things that makes it hard for me to really like her. I mean, they’re reasonable considering the circumstances, but they are so at odds with the rest of her character (which is careing and loving and protective, etc.) that they kinda jarred me out of liking her as well as I could.

    Still, as I said, her feelings are understandable. Neither she nor Jon are in an easy seat here – he’s a bastard, and society will treat him as such no matter what his father does, and she has to sit there every day and look at this reminder that her husband, whom she loves, fathered a child with another woman, AND she gets to worry herself sick speculating about who this woman was, because Ned sure ain’t telling.

    TV show!Jon is not so much a bad person as he is… petulant and kinda boring, because they skip over all of his internal monologuing and internal conflict, and let me tell you, Jon is 90% internal conflict. Everything he does stems from stuff going on inside him – and the tv show just sorta breezes past that, which leaves Jon kinda… bland. Book!Jon is much more interesting and well-developed as a character.

    And yeah, the Stark children do like Jon. The only possible exception is Sansa, but even she does seem positive towards him on occasion, so she probably does like him.

    • Dianna says:

      It doesn’t help that most of what we’ve seen of Catelyn (or at least from what I recollect) is her reactions to Jon. Leave aside Jon, and Catelyn–to me, at least–seems slightly undeveloped, but pretty damn interesting. It’ll be nice to to see where Catelyn develops from here.

      I think part of my problem is that I understand that I should not judge the past by today’s standards–the book is set in a European medieval setting from what I can gather–but there are certain things that I feel are timeless, or that I would do myself, and seeing her not doing them is annoying.

      Okay, Catelyn’s in a bad situation, and her feelings about it are completely valid. Won’t argue that. Still, when she can wallow in her grief? Annoyance? about Ned’s cheating and then method of dealing with it, or accept it and move on because she can’t change anything about it… why choose to wallow?

      …at least Jon looks hot in the TV show? 😛

  2. Siri Paulson says:

    From Cat’s perspective, Jon is a slap in the face from Ned. It’s REALLY not traditional in Westeros to raise one’s bastard children alongside the “official” ones. Jon is also a possible threat to Robb’s inheriting Winterfell…I mean, by their laws, Jon shouldn’t be allowed to inherit, but sometimes bastards can cause succession feuds. And Cat’s main purpose in life is to turn out heirs for Ned, so she’s a tad biased.

    (I like Cat, for the most part, but sometimes — like here — she says and does things that cause a lot of controversy among readers.)

    The gift of Needle solidified my allegiance to both Jon and Arya. ^____^

    • Dianna says:

      I don’t see Jon wanting to even bother with succession, personally, though your point is well made. It can happen, so it could be a concern to Catelyn.

      I really want to like Catelyn. But see above, in my reply to Anna.

      (WHY AM I SAYING ANNA LIKE IT WAS PRONOUNCED IN FROZEN?)

      Jon and Arya’s interactions together make me realise why someone wrote a Jon/Arya fic. But… ew.

      • Siri Paulson says:

        Frozen is set in a fantasy version of Norway, and the Norwegian languages (yes, there are two) are VERY closely related to Swedish, so…that *is* pretty much how Anna is pronounced in Swedish!

        (I need to blog about Frozen and the fjords in Norway, since I’ve been there and that’s where my family comes from. But I digress.)

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