A Game of Thrones – Chapter Twelve: Eddard


  1. Page numbers based off Kindle edition.
  2. No spoiling me; I will edit/delete any.
  3. I don’t avoid spoilers.
  4. My citation format is not necessarily accurate, but it works for me.

I appreciate that some people may be turned off by this constant ‘pre-blog’ notification. I choose to respect that some people may not have read these books before, like I hadn’t and so make the effort to not spoil them unless they go to the post page. I figure if you really want to be here, reading, you’ll ignore it.

…I am not impressed with Robert. Maybe that’s because I read him as saying (and sometimes doing) everything with enthusiasm, even if it lacks indications of such in the text. And I don’t mind enthusiastic people, but I can only take so much. And apparently that even extends to fictional people.

…Jon’s mother is a common girl called Wylla? What a letdown. Unless that is a lie to protect Lady Ashara Dayne… but if Ned speaks the truth, and in some respects why would he not to a man who is like a brother… why then quell all mention of Lady Ashara Dayne? Damnit, I’m curious.

…uh oh… Mormont is some type of spy? I can’t say I’m surprised.

“Daenerys Targaryen has wed some Dothraki horselord. What of it? Shall we send her a wedding gift?”1 Is it just me, or is this dripping with sarcasm?

…I like that Ned did not accept Robert’s words about the babes being dragonspawn. It speaks well of his character.

And indeed, Robert is a most wrothful character. And something of an idiot. Whilst I am not one to say “cheater once, cheater forever” (as the most common example of the belief), I recognise that if Jaime could betray Aerys to put Robert on the throne, he is therefore capable of betraying Robert to put someone else on the throne. He may not do it, but he has demonstrated his capability.

…should Ned have spoken? Maybe not. But clearly he felt he must speak, and I do not like the picture he paints. He is wary of Jaime, if no one else is, and given what we have seen of Jaime, I side with Ned in being wary. It seems sensible.

But ye goddesses, Robert is a damned fool.

1. Martin, George R. R. (2010-12-23). A Game of Thrones, page 107. HarperCollins Publishers. Kindle Edition.


5 Responses to “A Game of Thrones – Chapter Twelve: Eddard”

  1. Siri Paulson says:

    OMG, have I beat Anna in commenting?

    Yeah, Robert is an idiot. And now it’s Ned’s job to give him advice. Can’t see any way that this will go horribly wrong…

    I had totally forgotten that Mormont was established here as being a spy. That’s interesting.

    One of the things I like most about this series is how GRRM forces us to see things from several perspectives at once. (Except when he shoves us into POVs I don’t want to see, but I digress…) So we have Robert and his feelings about Targaryens, vs. Dany and her feelings about Robert, vs. Ned who helped Robert get the throne but still isn’t as rabidly anti-Targaryen as Robert is. (Which kinda makes sense, since Robert’s the one who has the throne to lose.) After reading GRRM, it’s hard to get back into books that present one side as ZOMGevil.

    As for Jaime, that’s a very dramatic image, sitting on the throne with his king’s blood on his sword (the very sword that was sworn to his king’s protection). For most of the people in Westeros, it would probably outweigh what he did to Bran. It certainly affects how everyone around him sees — and treats — him.

    • Dianna says:

      You have. Anna meant to comment on Sunday and forgot/was busy, it appears.

      I like the conflicting viewpoints. It makes me think more. *nod*

      I still wanna punch Jaime in his smug little face.

  2. Anna says:

    Oh hey look – I have the internet again! Time to get commenting!

    Ah, Ned. I like this chapter of his, because it begins to really explore what was established at the start – that his old friend, whom he loves and won a kingdom for, has changed dramatically in the last fifteen years, and probably not for the better* – and that Ned’s faith in old bonds might not serve him well in King’s Landing. And it reinforces the trick GRRM really likes pulling – the unreliability of his characters’ perceptions of the world. None of them are in possession of the objective truth of things – so you have Robert seeing Daenerys as a worthless scion of a degenerate family, Dany seeing Robert as a cruel and wicked usurper, and Ned sitting somewhere in between them looking kind of lost.

    (*Also, with the unreliability of narrators up for discussion; we don’t know if Ned’s memories of Robert as being all that great is true, or if that’s him rose-tinting his own recollections.)

    And yeah, Robert. He might have been a good leader of soldiers and a brave fighter, but after fifteen years on the throne, he strikes me as less of a grown man and more of a petulant child. I really don’t like him much as a character. He spends so much of his time indulging himself – in food, in wine, in women; in a festering, nigh-unreasonable hatred of all things Targaryen – that he loses sight of some things. Like effective ruling of his kingdoms. Like the presence of unreliable people on his Small Council. Like the fact that he is a really kind of terrible king. Not Mad Aerys-level bad – which would take some serious doing – but definitely nowhere near the regions of “good”.

    And oh Jaime. This image of him on the throne, with a bloodied sword, is going to come up again and again – both as a memory (Ned) and as a myth (a lot of other people) and even from Jaime himself. It’s a powerful image, and GRRM uses it well.

    • Dianna says:

      …now I want to write Jerry Springer fanfic where Robert, Daenerys and Ned act exactly like that. …or is the current shock person Maury? *has no idea*

      People change. It just seems so surprising that Robert would, because he is the king of the people… but even kings are not immune, I guess.

      • Anna says:

        Oh god. The ASOIAF-cast on Jerry Springer-style show. >.< Insanity!

        You know, I find it more reasonable that Robert would change than that he wouldn't – not only have fifteen years passed, with all the usual changes that fifteen years of living brings; he's also carrying the weight of responsibility for a third of the known world on his shoulders. *Everything* he does matters, no matter how small.

        That kind of weight wears on a man.

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