A Game of Thrones – Chapter Fifteen: Sansa

Reminders:

  1. Page numbers based off Kindle edition.
  2. No spoiling me; I will edit/delete any.
  3. I don’t avoid spoilers.
  4. My citation format is not necessarily accurate, but it works for me.

I appreciate that some people may be turned off by this constant ‘pre-blog’ notification. I choose to respect that some people may not have read these books before, like I hadn’t and so make the effort to not spoil them unless they go to the post page. I figure if you really want to be here, reading, you’ll ignore it.

A Sansa chapter. Eeenteresting.

…oh god is Sansa one of those vapid, vain girls? I do not like reading about them because I do not find interesting what they find interesting.

I also don’t like Septa Mordane. Were I Ned, I would have changed how Mordane treated/handled my kids long ago. Perhaps that is unfair, given I live in a society that is really quite different, but… she gets on my nerves. A lot.

Oooh, rubies… this could be pretty cool.

…yeah, for now I am in the Arya camp in the Arya vs Sansa war. Arya has some personality, some drive. Arya is interesting. Sansa… *shudder* I can understand her wants and desires but… they’re also rather anathema to me.

…questioning Arya’s birth? Is that just Sansa being… whatever, or is that supposed to serve as a clue?

*stares* Joffrey knows how to be polite?

Well, Sansa acquitted herself quite well in that meeting of people. I like that.

…JOFFREY WANTS TO GO RIDING SO NOW SANSA LOVES RIDING… I think she is acting in idiotic ways.

I am surprised that Joffrey treats Sansa so well, but I shouldn’t be. As the king’s son, surely he would have been taught manners appropriate to his station.

And I suspect that they hear Arya and Mycah… and I am right.

Yup. I am not at all surprised that this went to hell. Joffrey really is a little shit. What the hell is his problem?

Comments

4 Responses to “A Game of Thrones – Chapter Fifteen: Sansa”

  1. Anna says:

    Oh god, Sansa. Not so little secret? Sansa is one of my favourite characters.

    The first time I read the books, I spent much of my time wanting Sansa to just shut the hell up and disappear from the plot, please – precisely for the reasons you list here. She’s vain and self-absorbed and kind of dumb, and once Joffrey comes along, she sort of shifts the center of her world to him.

    But oh dear god, did she ever grow on me. Comparing her starting point to where she is at the end of book four (she hasn’t got any viewpoint chapters in book five) is one hell of a journey.

    A few things to keep in mind, that might make reading Sansa more bearable. She’s, what, twelve? Thirteen? When the first book starts. She’s a little girl, from a noble family, raised faaaar away from any kind of aristocratic intrigue and conspiracy (of which there is, like, a LOT), and spoonfed fairytale stories about glorious knights and beautiful maidens and starcrossed lovers since she was a child – and she’s the kind of person who *loves* that sort of thing. That’s the lens through which she sees the world – a naive, rose-coloured dream, where knights are always noble, kings are always just, and maidens are saved from monsters.

    … This dream does not match up well with the world GRRM is writing. Sansa is going to get some real shattering blows to her worldview, be sure of that. Buuut, since GRRM isn’t there just to kick the stuffing out of little girls’ dreams, this means she gets to grow a whole lot too – it just takes a while for the rosy colours to fade.

    And the crack at Arya’s birth is just Sansa getting a punch in on the eternal sibling-squabble; Arya and Sansa really do not get along, because they’re such fundamentally different people (but are expected to be similar by society, because noble girls are supposed to act a certain way). That she chooses to make a crack about Arya’s birth is probably due to a.) the existence of Jon Snow – Sansa knows how touchy a subject bastardhood is, because she has a bastard brother, and b.) as mentioned in the text, Arya is – along with Jon – the Stark-child that looks most like Ned, and least like the rest of her siblings. She looks different, ergo it’s easy to point that out.

    And Joffrey? Joffrey is a psychopath who knows how to fake it some of the time.

    Re: Arya vs Sansa. I love them both, for different reasons – because they’re very different people, with different starting points and very different character-trajectories. Arya is the typical tomboy-princess, I-don’t-wanna-be-like-the-other-girls character at the start of the story – you know the type; they turn up a lot in fantasy. Sansa, on the other hand, is the perfect-princess type, who is beautiful and well-versed in ettiquette and who sees the world through rose-coloured glasses. So, two VERY different people, who relate to each other only through the accident of birth.

    And this difference in personality sets them on two very different paths through the story, and I find it fascinating to follow. Sansa, by virtue of how her personality works, is more passive than Arya – she’s reactive; things happen TO her, and she tries to handle it. Arya is more pro-active, and makes things happen for herself in many ways – but this doesn’t mean Sansa is helpless or weak. It just means she’s got a different set of weapons than Arya does, and takes a bit longer to learn how to use them. Sansa is more verbal, and Arya more physical.

    But Sansa does get her moments to shine, and they are glorious.

    • Dianna says:

      I certainly look forward to Sansa’s improvement.

      I’m pleased that she does grow up, because even if she had no viewpoint chapters, as a Stark, she seems to be fairly important. And it would just be annoying if she remained this vapid and vain.

      It probably won’t be easy for her, losing that rosy worldview… it never is. But it’ll be good for her, no doubt.

  2. Siri Paulson says:

    I think Anna covered most of what I would’ve said about Sansa. XD I spent a good long while thinking of her as a blithering idiot who is being sadly punished for the idealism you see in her here. It’s true that she does tend to be a passive character, and her storyline takes a while to get moving. But along the way she learns some cool things, picks up some skills, and eventually starts to become awesome — just in a more societally-approved-for-girls way than, for example, what Arya-the-tomboy dreams of. By the later books, I was definitely on her side. (Though not at the expense of Arya.)

    As for Joffrey…yuck. Just yuck.

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